The response was almost immediate. TundraTalk nation has spoken. Okay, we can start with the queen fan of the bunch and his 'opinion'. Gene Principe, E-Town Sportsnet Principe's, lets us all know what he thinks, and his IQ with this little diddy...
I almost, stress almost, feel bad for all you Pack fans with the Favre mess..on second thought I'm actually enjoying all this in fighting...
Gene
Thanks Gene for that little nugget. We will see you next year with our regular bet (to which you still owe me one meal) and you will lose again.
The response that I knew I could count on was Marty. He is a born and raised Packer Fan. His dad was at the Ice Bowl (the day I was born I might add). He is a #4 fan just like me. We froze our beers off at the NFC Championship together with the Nordic One. So he definitely has the right to spout off. Marty take it away...
What? Marty Frey being pragmatic about the possible Brett Favre return?
I must be getting old since I can see merit in both points of view - but maybe something different is required in this case.
I get that Brett has "the itch" to play football.. 25 years of training camp in July just doesn't go away because of some arbitrary decision.
Salmon swim upstream to spawn in the spring - the swallows return to Capistrano - football players attend training camp in July... It's part of the rhythm of nature.
But the Pack does need to plan now for the future... I say Brett can come back to camp - if he wants to - and compete for the starting quarterback job.
Let's be realistic - Aaron Rodgers may be mentally ready to play right now. If he wins the starting job, so be it. But everyone knows that Aaron Rodgers is made out of glass. He broke his damn foot running out of bounds! Rodgers starts the season - gets a little dinged up about halfway through the season, but at about the 3/4 mark of the season he goes down with a season ending injury. Who are you going to call for his backup? Not some stone-cold rookie who is still wondering why there aren't any cheerleaders on the sidelines. No - you call on The Iron Man. Favre has stayed in shape, he's ready to play and comes in firing. The other teams haven't prepared to see him again - so they are off balance. Favre takes the Pack through the playoffs, into the Superbowl and wins it against the San Diego Chargers. Then he quietly retires to his farm in Mississippi to ride his tractor into the sunset..
Oh yeah - and the Bears and Vikings finish with 4-12 record, fighting for last place in the division.. Now we're talking..
Marty
Word as the kids are saying on the streets these days. Marty speaks wisdom and I hope this is how it plays out. Especially the queens going 4-12.
Next up we have an Entourage contestant, a good friend, and a former boss. As a boss he was VERY right to hire me, but in this case we will have to agree to disagree. Mike Chaussee is a lifelong Pack fan, as he points out, and has a problem with my logic. Mike....
I get your love for #4. And it's understandable for all the Packer fans out
there who only became Packer fans once #4 got there. But Favre is not
bigger than the team. And he obviously thinks he is. What the hell were
the Packers supposed to do? He dances around retirement for four
off-seasons, they don't know if he's coming or going or riding a frigging
tractor of throwing lawn darts. But all of a sudden he 'changes' his mind
and the world is supposed to stop for him. That's ridiculous.
I'm not anointing Rodgers. He'll never be as good as Favre. Favre in his
glory was one of the best players ever. But don't kid yourself into
thinking the Favre of the last four or five years was the Favre of the first
10. Not even close. He's playing to survive. He talks about not wanting
the ball with 2:00 left in the game. He talks about how he doesn't have
confidence in the team around him. Last year was his first come back drive
in like four years.
He made a couple of plays last year that I'll give him credit for. He had a
good year. But I can count on one hand the number of clutch plays he's made
in the last five years. I mean, down to the wire, need to have a play...and
he makes it.
In Philly it was Walker's fault. In St. Louis it was the line's fault.
Against the Giants it was that his receivers weren't open. B.S.!!! He had
every chance to win that Giants game...TWICE!!! We had the ball with 2:30
left and he threw three of the worst passes I've ever seen. 3 and out.
Then, the bullet to Jenni....oh, I mean the lob to the dude in the blue
helmet.
Hey, I love and appreciate what the guy did for the Pack. He definitely
brought us back from the pit of despair of the 70s and 80s...but at some
point it's time to move on. Especially when the dude friggin retired. He
retired!!! What the hell? Should the Packers have just stopped moving
forward just in case he changed his mind?
We should have known he was going to pull something like this when he didn't
sign his retirement papers. Hell, this was probably his plan all along.
Boo hoo, they don't coddle me like a baby anymore, I'm going to take my ball
and go home and play for someone else next year.
Come on back Brett. Please. We need you. We can't go on without you.
Here's your ball back. Everyone else who's here all off season, committed
from the start, working their asses off while your gardening will just watch
you strut in, take your ball and START THROWING INTERCEPTIONS. Then be
forced to talk glowingly about you and the legacy you are trying to ruin.
Nice.
And that's just another point of view from a lifelong Packer fan.
Mike
I get ALL that. really I do. I have gone over all that twice. BUT, Favre wants to play, I WANT TO WIN. These windows don't open all that often. It has been what? 10 years since we were even close? Okay give it to Rodgers fine. What do we do when it game three he breaks his ankle going to get a drink of gatorade? Favre is now playing with the Ravens. We got nothing. Let him come back another year then trade him. If he sucks, put in Rodgers, everyone gets what they want.
Trading Favre or letting him go is a no win situation. Really think about it, TT has a choice, AGAIN, start a guy who has NO NFL starts, No NFL wins, got hurt in practice once, came into a game in relief and lasted about two plays(?) then Favre had to come back in. OR you start a three time MVP, two time super bowl, one time super bowl winning, TD leader, Yards Leader, consecutive game leader, INT leader, he owns the record book, you get the drift. To me its a no brainer. He also was the only reason they won games that 8-8 season. They had nothing around him. Nothing.
I did not see the Greta interview last night, Damn Canada, so I don't know all what was said but I what I did hear is that I am kinda right. So what now. Now we have a mess, when if they just would have let him come back and keep all the shit under your hat we have a season that we all will remember, for better or worse.
In Philly it was Shermans fault, 4th and one with the best rb in the league and you punt? In St. Louis it was his WR's. Missing routes and knocking the ball UP in the air for someone else to catch. Against Dallas it was also MM fault, had he run the same game plan with Favre that he did with Rodgers we would have a W instead of a L. Against the Giants that was MM fault. Where the hell was Grant? Why was he calling for long passes and not running the ball or throwing the slants? Dude, I was there, I saw all the mistakes. Why the hell could we not cover Plax. ONE GUY!!
Favre does throw some crazy shit, I understand that. But I will put up with one or two of these 3 INT games for 14 games of W's. Which is what we got last year. I just want it to end. I am tired of it. Let him play, back up whatever. When fancy pants Rodgers gets hurt, and he will, Favre comes in and saves the day.
Oh and no one gave Strahan shit for not coming to practice in the off season, and look how that turned out. SB trophy.
I am sorry but this is how I feel. and the becoming a fan after Favre was a bit harsh. I after all played for the Packers in PEE WEE football. I hated the cowboys. AND I lived in GB.
I was born on the day of the ICE BOWL. So I think I get a bit of leeway.
Have a nice day, if you can.
Next up we have another GB naitive and Entourage participant. Hauserinskinov, of the TitleTown Hausers, has his opinion. Take it away Hauser...
You do not want my opinion coming from a GB media outlet that is sick of the Favre issue!
A really sad situation, too bad it ever had to happen.....but it just really might be time to move on!
How about them RoughRiders!
Hauserinskinov
Nice touch Hauser with the Go Riders. Buttering up the Canadians is always a good idea. I know as a former media member who lived in GB we hated the Packers stories when they were winning so I can only imagine what it is like now. Too bad. Just hang tough, it will be over someday and you can go back to doing your 'winter saftey kit in the trunk' story.
So where do we go from here? I guess we will find out in the next couple of days. I just hope it goes good for both sides. I am sure there will be more opinions coming so stay tuned. ONe thing is for sure. The queens will NEVER win a Super Bowl. Gotta love that.
Now, GET BACK TO WORK!!!!!
