FAVRE TO THE qUEENS????? In related news, forecast for hell is freezing rain...

As you know, TundraTalk has sources in all corners of Canada and the good ole US of A. As you also know, TundraTalk is your only source of breaking news about the Packers and other stuff. Well, I have done it again.

Sources tell TundraTalk that a certain DB that used to play for the Packers until he sold out, has told someone close to my source that if Brett Favre's 'arm is healed and feels good he will play for the queens.' Done deal. Rock solid. I will give you pause to scream NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!


Okay, now that that is out of the way. How does TundraTalk feel about this? Well, I will tell you. This whole Favre to the queens is not new news. You can read about it here, here and here. I know that news has been around for weeks.

As far as why he wants to go to the godless queens? I put it square on Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy. He wants to play in Lambeau field and whip the pants off of the Packers. I hate to say it but, he might just do it. He did not have a chance to do it last year with the Jets but we all know that if he goes to the queens he will have two chances to do it. TT Nation member Ryan Popkey, of the GB Popkey's, told TT earlier today that he would love to have new LB Clay Mathews 'welcome him to Lambeau personally'. I agree, but man would it be hard to watch Favre run out of that tunnel wearing that godforsaken purple that those losers wear.

Really nothing would make me more happy than to see a shit look on Ted's face after Number 4 leaves the field with a 40-0 W on his back, but not for those shitty queens. Never. Due to his indiscretions last year I have already had to take my Favre Fathead wall hanging off the wall in the man cave, demoted him and moved it to the beer fridge room. Not that the beer fridge room is much of a demotion, but I would hate to have to move it to the shed. This kind of dumbass decision might just seal the deal. Really, who in their right mind wants to play in Minnesota? Dipshits and Randy Moss.

Forget what it says in the picture to the right, it would be MY worst nightmare. Last year when he was in NY I at least had two games to watch on Sundays that would be interesting. I was rooting for the guy whilst he was in NY. In fact I managed to finagle a NY Jets McFarlane Favre which is sitting right next to the Packer one. I was not totally offended when he went there last year. It was a reasonable thing to do. He actually had a decent 3/4's of the year with the Jets.

I don't ever want to find myself in front of the tube, watching Favre play, rooting for him, and then realizing I was rooting for the queens. NEVER. I mean really if Dick Cheney had a team and they were playing the queens, I would root for Dick. If Hitler had a team, wait, maybe not. I would root for injuries on both sides. Yeah.

Marty Frey, of the GB born and bred, Frey's, took time out of his busy schedule making NBC the greatest network on TV to tell us what he thinks...

Dear TundraTalk,

I loved Brett Favre as a Packer and I understand that his current motivation now is to hurt Ted Thompson any way that he can. Really - I can't blame him as Ted has systematically taken a winning team apart just so he could have "his guys" playing for him and Favre was standing in his way.

But going to the Viqueens is the last step in the tarnishing of a champion. I get it - you want to take Ted down. So do I. But going to the Viqueens is just like making a deal with the devil or turning traitor in the middle of battle..

Real heroes just don't do it. You take the high road and you let Ted self destruct on his own - then talk about it on ESPN after he's dead and gone.

Marty

I know Brett reads TundraTalk, so I am going to make my plea.

Dear Brett,

First off, I want to thank you for all the years you played so amazing for the Green Bay Packers. For all those 'holy shit' moments that you gave us whether we were sitting in the stands or watching at home on the TV. I was there when you whipped the 49'rs in 1996 when the rain was sleet and coming down sideways. I was there when you took on the Giants for the NFC Championship. I was there when you whipped the Cowboys by 3 TD's. That was freaking awesome. Oh and the night you beat the queens in OT with that prayer pass that Freeman caught off his ass. I was watching and screaming at my TV. Great moment.

I was there parade side when you brought the Lombardi Trophy back to where it belongs, Green Bay Wisconsin. Titletown USA. It was a glorious time to live in GB and to be a Packer fan. I to this day still believe that you deserved the MVP. Not Desmond 'I will leave you and suck next year' Howard. That said, the Minnesota viqueens will NEVER win anything EVER. You know that as well as I do.

Anyway, the reason I am writing you today is to plead to your better conscience. You are a great quarterback. Best ever in my book. You have nothing to prove to anyone. I know that that dick Ted Thompson really fucked with your life for two to three years and Mike McCarthy really does not know his head from his ass, but by doing this you are playing into their hands. They want you to do this. They are arrogant a-holes who think they do no wrong. Let them fall on their face by themselves. They do not need your push.

I know that Mr. Noodle over there in the Baggie Dome is making you an offer that will be hard to refuse. I mean really, look what he has to work with. Tavaris who? Sage who? And some guy named Booty who wears your number. If I were him I would be begging you to come also, but I would never, EVER be him because I have class and respect for the game of football. Real men play on grass outdoors. Oh, and don't run over traffic cops and go on porno boats on one of those many swamps in Minnesota. One more thing about Minnesucka, their hunting sucks balls. Wisconsin is waaaaaaay better. Believe dat.

Remember, Lambeau field is still your house. It ain't A Rod's until he has a winning season. We want to see you back in Lambeau just as bad as you want to be there. It's just that we want to see you raise your number to the ring of honour NOT see you wearing that ugly purple jersey.

So to wrap this up with a nice little green and gold bow. Please Brett, don't play for the queens. If not for your legacy, don't do it for all the fans who still think you are the greatest QB to ever play the game. Playing for the queens never does anyone any good. Look what it did for Herschel Walker and Warren Moon. Nothing. That is what you need to do, nothing. Oh, or maybe mow your lawn.

Your biggest fan, for now,

Chris from Green Bay

Finally I weigh in on the Number 4 situation...

First thing, PackerPalace dot com, provided most of the pictures on this post.

Okay, so all of you, if you have not been under a rock, have heard all this drama around the Packers and Number 4. I have chosen to not jump in right away for a few reasons. Number one, it is really just driving me crazy. When I heard on Friday that Favre had asked for a release I literally felt sick. I could not concentrate on work, I was angry, and really just wanted to sit up in bed and wake myself from the stupid dream. Oops, not a dream. Secondly, I was hoping it would just work itself out before I had a chance to weigh in. Nope.

I called Marty on Friday hoping he would talk me down from the edge. No, that did not happen, I think I just pushed him closer to the edge. Marty, of the tinseltown Frey's, wants Favre to just cool out until Mr. 'I get hurt in practice' Rodgers to get hurt then Number 4 can ride in and save the day and me and Marty can go to a Super Bowl this January. How sweet would that be?

Ryan Popkey, of the Green Bay Popkey's, got a frantic call from yours truly on Friday. He just happened to be doing live shots from Lambeau Field when I called. I wonder what was going on? It is not like the local media EVER goes live from the field. Really it is odd when they don't.

What really pushed ME back a bit from the edge was an email I recieved today. It was composed by a Bengal fan no less. Greg Donnelly, of the Edmonton Donnelly's, dropped this little diddy on me today that just snapped me out of my haze. Yes I have been in a bit of a haze the past few days.

So this guy I know has his own blog where he rips on the most mundane of subjects or opines on everything under the sun never shunting from controversy. He's also a Packers fan and yet the biggest, most divisive topic to hit Green Bay since the invention of injecting cheese into smokies comes along and all I see is a photoshopped pic????

Real fans want to know does GB say screw you to the franchise's future and cowtow to a primadonna's weekly whims? Or do they say screw you Hall of Famer who brought Packer Nation back from oblivion and is (was) as revered as the sandaled Jew who started a popular religion 2000 years ago?

What's the verdict, Chris?

Greg

Well Greg, you bring up a few good points. And one really bad one. First off I want to know who this guy you know who has a blog is and where I can read it because it sounds real cool.

Second, I am a real fan and I can honestly say I have the RIGHT opinion on this issue.

Thirdly, I am fine with injecting cheese into a fine meat product as long as it compliments the meat, and does not over shadow the meat. Cheese is a fine thing to add to anything. Especially Wisconsin cheese.

Fourth, dude, Favre is far from a Primadonna. I hope you do not suffer any 'accidents' in the next few days in response to this uncalled for remark.

Okay, lets address this question first. Am I loyal to the Packers first or Favre First. This is a tough question that I have been asked many times over this weekend that felt more like a month. This answer is multi-layered. Bottom line, I am a Packer Fan first. But having said that I beleive that you cannot separate Farve from the Green Bay Packers. Farve IS the Green Bay Packers. He has been the face of this franchise for 17 years and has won tons of games (some that they had no business winning), a Super Bowl (queens still don't have one), and made them a TON of money. I love every part of the Green Bay Packers (well except maybe Ted Thompson right now). Lambeau field, the tailgating that is second to none, the players, the logo, the frozen tundra, all the Packers songs. I love it all right down to the jerseys. There is no experience like seeing the Packers at Lambeau Field. My license plate on my truck is GO -PACK. There is not a day that goes by that I do not wear a shirt, hat, jacket, or touque that does not have a big fat G on it. My whole wardrobe is Green and Gold.

Now Favre. I have for the past three or so months have been trying to wrap my head around the fact that when I turn on the tube next year I will not see Number 4 on the field. It has been tough. I was at his final game(as of right now). I think I was just starting to get over it and then whammo. He wants back. He is the source of a huge amount of memories I have of this team. The list is too long to get into here but my favorite Favre memory is that rainy Monday night that he lobbed that long bomb in OT to Freeman and he caught it off his legs to beat the queens. That my friend is sweet. Go home Moss, you suck.

I am a huge fan of Number 4. I once tried to count (at Cory's request I think) how many items I have in my basement that have his image on it. I lost count at around 30. I have a Brett Favre ornament that I keep hanging from my rearview. I haven't driven anywhere with out that for around 5 years. In fact I am going to rename my boat NUMBER 4. No lie. I am a HUGE Brett fan. So, how do you think I feel about him coming back. To answer the question about Packers or Favre I don't think there is an answer because they are one and the same.

On the same note, I want the Pack to win a fourth Super Bowl (queens have none). Who gives them the best chance to win now? The three time MVP, Number 4. It sure as hell ain't crystal ankles Rogers. I know that Rodgers wants his shot, but dude, if Number 4 wants to play, let him play and you, Mr. Rodgers, may have a ring to wear on your finger. Deal with that.

So lets address this 'retirement'. My theory, which will prove to be reality, is this... Have a look at the picture to the left. That is Deanna, TT, and Head coach Mike MacBlowMe. Look at the body language and the looks on their faces. First it looks like Deanna wants nothing to do with either of them. Second, the look on TT and MM faces tells the whole story. They look like they are nervous as hell that Brett might tell the whole world that they did not want the greatest QB to play the game to come back and that they forced Brett to shut it down so they could 'move on' as they have said repeatedly in the media.

Now, here is another scenario that may or may not have been addressed. I think MM and TT last year after the NFC Championship sat Number 4 down and said "Listen Brett, we like ya, we just don't love ya. It is time to let A-Rod take the reigns. You can either back him up, or back yourself out."

Let me tell you a story about a job I once had. I worked with a guy who was great at his job. He did it very well. He was hired by Boss 1. Boss 1 left the company. Boss 2 gets hired, he wants to come in and put his 'stamp' on the company and since Boss 2 did not hire this guy who did his job very well, who I will call Gord, he decides to run him out and put in an incompetent person that HE hired. This is what I think TT is trying to do. He has been living in the shadow of Brett and Ron Wolf (who has been praised as a genious because he traded for him) so he decides to get rid of Brett so people can think he (TT) is a just as smart for drafting Rodgers.

Brett plays the good soldier shuts it down on TV, sheds some man tears, and regrets it immediately. But lives with it for a few months. Gets restless and makes some inquiries about coming back. This is where I do not trust TT. They say that they said they would welcome him back and hold a presser to announce it. Nope don't buy it. I think that talk is just to try and save face. Every company does this to make themselves as the good guys. Spin that is what that is.

Now the Packers (TT) say they will not release him and he can come back as a back up. Hey, TT, did you go over and kick his dog while you are at it? Maybe egg his house? Let me see, on one hand you have a guy who has not started one game in his career, got hurt on his first regular season play, got hurt once in practice, and has not proven anything as far as I am concerned. On the other hand you have a Super Bowl Champ (queens have still, as I write this, have not won one), a three time MVP, the iron man of the NFL with 253 starts , TD leader among ALL the other records, and the guy who plays everygame like it is his last. Hmmmmmmmmm, tough choice. It is like making a movie and choosing between Al Pacino and Steven Segal. Now he realizes that he did not want to retire so he decides to shove it back in TT's face?

He should just say okay to that, come back sit out the first few games, and then when tiddlywinks Rodgers gets hurt come in and be the hero.

Okay, so if TT decides to pull the trigger on a trade I think I will go into convulsions and break out into cold sweats, AGAIN. The teams rumoured to be interested are EVERY TEAM IN THE LEAGUE, well except you TT. The name that keeps popping up is the godless viqueens. For the love of God this cannot happen.

DO NOT LET NUMBER FOUR WEAR ANY OTHER COLORS THAN GREEN AND GOLD. TT, that last comment was aimed at you. If you do decide to fu#k with me and Packer Nation, I will be standing outside Lambeau with my torch, a machete, and maybe a sawed off. If Number 4 wants to play, let him freaking play!!! CLICK HERE to go to a site that is dedicated to getting Favre back. You can sign the petition and everything.

I want him to play, the whole Packer Nation wants him to play, it looks as if the media want him to play, we know Madden wants him to play, EA sports wants him to play, his teammates (if they want to win) want him to play, but TT and MM don't. Who is going to win? It ain't gonna be TT if he deals him to another team. It will be TT's job if Favre goes to another team and leads them to the playoffs and Rodgers leads the Pack to the cellar of the NFC North.

On the EA sports note. What the hell was EA thinking putting a retired player on the cover? Were they actually going to have him on the game? Or was A Rod going to have the starting spot? How would A Rod feel if in Madden '09 Favre started while Favre was nowhere actually on the real field of play? Why would I buy a game with Number 4 on the cover if he wasn't even in the game? (because I am a Packer Fan) If he does play, does the fact that he was retired at one point negate the EA Curse? I sure the hell hope so. Just a few things that I ponder.

Now, Mr. Donnelly, did I answer your question enough. Or did you stop reading six paragraphs ago? I thought so. If you think the leader of the TundraTalk nation was not going to wade in you were sadly mistaken my friend. Sadly mistaken.

I just hope that it ends to my liking. I can't afford to lose any more sleep.

Oh by the way, Tony will be on TundraTalk the Podcast hopefully this week.

Have a great day, and GET BACK TO WORK!!!!